I'm just checking in. Not much to write today except that it's the middle of a world pandemic! and unfortunately international travel is still hampered... and the US has failed to contain the outbreak. Top leadership said it'd be gone most likely by April (2020) and then it would fade away has it got hotter. Soooooo in the middle of summer we are recorder record high new infections (70+ thousand) dwarfing the peaks in April.
Saturday, July 11, 2020
Friday, July 14, 2017
Today I checked in at 153 lbs (70kg) after being at 170 in early May... so 10% of me is now gone. I'm going to share some things that I have been doing. I can't say with absolute proof that they work. Also note the disclaimer which ironically tells you to do what this post is about.
The scale read 153.0 lbs so 10% of me is gone before lunch time today. 17 (7.7 kg) lbs since early May. The left is me now with some distortion due to the camera lens.
Before trying to lose weight I met with my physician and a registered dietitian. I felt it was important to assess if I had any special conditions that I would need to address and make special accommodations for. What I was seeking to prevent was being frustrated or failing because of an unknown factor , or in the worst case causing harm to myself. Also, I discovered that finding out more about the consequences of obesity/being overweight has been more motivating. As an example my Asian genetic background makes me more vulnerable to obesity related co-morbidity factors at a lower level of obesity than let's say your average Caucasian.
It is unfortunate that in the country I live in, access to health care isn't easy, but I think one should if possible visit the doctor before engaging in weight loss. I hope that someday everyone in my country and the world will be able to get healthcare when they need it.
The above does not constitute medical advice and is meant for informational purposes only. Please consult a physician before engaging in any weight loss program
The scale read 153.0 lbs so 10% of me is gone before lunch time today. 17 (7.7 kg) lbs since early May. The left is me now with some distortion due to the camera lens.
Before trying to lose weight I met with my physician and a registered dietitian. I felt it was important to assess if I had any special conditions that I would need to address and make special accommodations for. What I was seeking to prevent was being frustrated or failing because of an unknown factor , or in the worst case causing harm to myself. Also, I discovered that finding out more about the consequences of obesity/being overweight has been more motivating. As an example my Asian genetic background makes me more vulnerable to obesity related co-morbidity factors at a lower level of obesity than let's say your average Caucasian.
It is unfortunate that in the country I live in, access to health care isn't easy, but I think one should if possible visit the doctor before engaging in weight loss. I hope that someday everyone in my country and the world will be able to get healthcare when they need it.
The above does not constitute medical advice and is meant for informational purposes only. Please consult a physician before engaging in any weight loss program
Saturday, July 18, 2015
Monday, December 23, 2013
Queen Victoria market
A quick piece of advice (after a year's absence).... at the Queen Victoria Market , if you want a smoke free experience avoid the bathrooms near the deli and meats/seafood section. Oh yes, the water at the sinks is hands free in that you are supposed to push a button with your thigh. There's another set of bathroom at the intersection of Queen and Therry Streets.
P.S. In this case: bathroom = restroom.
P.S. In this case: bathroom = restroom.
Monday, December 17, 2012
Student Concession rates
If you are a foreign student - either a foreigner studying at an Australian school or a foreigner who is a student in a school outside of Australia you need to be aware of the concept of Student Concession rates. These are student discounts. But not all student discounts are equal opportunity so to speak.
Some student concession rates are only for Australians who are students (e.g. public transportation) yet other student concession rates (e.g. at museums) are open to students studying at an Australian school. I haven't really run into much in the way of student concession rates for foreigners who are studying in a non-Australian institution, I'm sure they are out there... maybe?
Addendum: 12/18/2012 Well they are alot closer than I thought... there's the Melbourne Museum which is FREE for students and the National Gallery of Victoria is free for everyone (except for the special exhibits)
Some student concession rates are only for Australians who are students (e.g. public transportation) yet other student concession rates (e.g. at museums) are open to students studying at an Australian school. I haven't really run into much in the way of student concession rates for foreigners who are studying in a non-Australian institution, I'm sure they are out there... maybe?
Addendum: 12/18/2012 Well they are alot closer than I thought... there's the Melbourne Museum which is FREE for students and the National Gallery of Victoria is free for everyone (except for the special exhibits)
Sunday, September 2, 2012
The Customer Experience.
If you are from Massachusetts, you might find the shopping experience different in Melbourne. You might find that there are many items where the price isn't labeled, or that are seemingly always on sale or on special, (then what is its normal price?). I have more than once encountered where an item where there are two different prices listed listed on the display. I won't argue what practices are unfair, deceptive or misleading but I'll offer an opinion on the last instance.
I kindly pointed out to the shopkeepers that they had two different prices prominently listed on display. The price tags on the individual items were at the lower price too. At which point one of shopkeepers took the item, scanned the bar code, and said it was the higher price. I offer that the difference is that in the U.S. (or in particular, Massachusetts stores), the shopkeeper might have said something like "Thanks for pointing that out to us, though it's really at the higher price, to show our appreciation we'll sell it to you at the lower price."
The advice I offer is to be prepared to be more demanding and assertive to merchants.
I kindly pointed out to the shopkeepers that they had two different prices prominently listed on display. The price tags on the individual items were at the lower price too. At which point one of shopkeepers took the item, scanned the bar code, and said it was the higher price. I offer that the difference is that in the U.S. (or in particular, Massachusetts stores), the shopkeeper might have said something like "Thanks for pointing that out to us, though it's really at the higher price, to show our appreciation we'll sell it to you at the lower price."
The advice I offer is to be prepared to be more demanding and assertive to merchants.
When coming to Australia, international travellers should always have a pack of tissues or a few pieces of paper towels on them. In many airport restrooms (and many public ones too), there are no paper towels. This is probably done in an effort to be green. However, hand dryer blowers can only do so much. For instance, they can't be used to wipe your face or towel off your neck and head after a long plane ride (remember sweating on the uncooled plane while boarding). The hand blower dryer can't help clean up a bloody nose caused by dry sinuses or wipe up liquid soap that has accidentally spilled over the side of your travel bottle. I suppose one could duck quickly into a toilet stall and grab some toilet paper but who wants to rush into a smelly stall right after someone has done the no. 2 (is that roll of toilet paper really clean too?).
Monday, June 18, 2012
Winter is here or almost here depending...
For Australians, the seasons start on the first of the month. Hence winter started on June 1, instead of the winter solstice for the southern hemisphere. While I have gotten used to the idea of colder weather in June (this was challenging being a northern hemisphere person), I still haven't acclimatized to the winter here - though I feel cold just looking at how the Victorians are all bundled up as if the next ice age is around the corner.
A word of advice when crossing streets. Many streets do not have crosswalks and drivers "enforce" that they have the right of way. Now technically if you are crossing a street and a car turns onto your street it is supposed to give way to you by law... except many Victorian drivers don't seem to know that law.
Please save my minutes: succinct voice mail greetings and touch tone menu messages.
Copyright 2012 Conan L. Hom
In this day and age, time is precious, and, as many of us transition to having only wireless phones, we also have to worry about using up our airtime minutes (yes many of us don't have unlimited plans!) Who hasn't experienced voicemail greetings or automated "touch tone" menus that are draining to both your patience and your minutes. I know personally - one time it took me 3 minutes and six seconds to wade through an automated system just to find out that I had to call back at another time.
Of course phone companies love this (except if you have an unlimited voice wireline or wireless plan). However, presumably the business you call would rather have you be a happy customer and spend more money on it than on your phone company.
If you are designing the automated touch tone menu:
1. Eliminate extra words: For example, "For service X, please press or dial 5". Dialing a number conceptually means the same thing whether you are on a keypad (touch tone) or a rotary phone. You could also use "choose" or "select" instead. Also drop the word "Please." After all, what option does caller the really have if (s)he wants to get service? Final version: "For service X, dial 5." If you have nine menu items that translates into 27 words saved (up to 20 seconds) every time the caller has to make a menu choice.
2. If the menu options have not changed in the past several weeks (which I bet is often the case), then "Please listen carefully for our menu options have changed" isn't necessary and may lead the caller to needlessly listen to entire menu options.
3. Check and test your phone decision tree: two choice stages where each have two choices means four possible outcomes - save time by having the four possibilities at one choice stage.
4. Make it so the caller only has to give his personal and/or account information once: Often automated systems require the caller to enter in account or personal information but then they don't pass it to the agent who handles the call. At this point the caller has to give the information all over again (and usually by voice which can be easily be overheard). It's tedious and makes it look like the business cannot maintain its own systems. Further more the agent now has to deal with an annoyed caller.
That being said, it isn't a bad thing to be entering in information by keypad since nowadays there aren't many private places (gone are the phone booths) where one make a call without being overheard.
Finally your friends can help out by using KISS guidelines in designing the a voicemail greeting:
The days of cutesy or creatively long greeting messages are gone...they waste the caller's air time minutes.
(1) Most phone company voicemail systems have automated messages that you can't shut off so you might as well not repeat them (e.g. "At the tone, leave a message etc. etc...").
(2) You don't have to state the obvious (or what's obviously not true): "I'm not available to take your call" (well isn't that why caller got the voicemail message?); I'll get back to you as soon as possible" (that's a lie, you'll get back to the caller when you decide you can, and the caller knows it) or "leave your name, number and a message" (usually if the caller wants a response he'll leave his contact info, won't he?).
(3) Don't elaborate when it's not needed. "I'm unable to take your call right now, I'm either away from my desk, or on another line"- isn't that essentially same as, "I'm unavailable"?
Take something long and verbose like this:
"Hello, you have reached the voicemail of X. I can't answer your call right now. I'm either away from my desk or on another line, but if you leave your name number and a brief message after the tone, I'll be sure to return your call as soon as possible. Thanks and have a nice day" [The automated voice then says, "At the tone you may leave a message" ].
You can pare it down to:
"Hello, X is unavailable" (allowing the automated message say "at the tone you may leave a message.").
You'll still communicate the essentials of a voicemail greeting. - that's a savings of over 50 words!
In this day and age, time is precious, and, as many of us transition to having only wireless phones, we also have to worry about using up our airtime minutes (yes many of us don't have unlimited plans!) Who hasn't experienced voicemail greetings or automated "touch tone" menus that are draining to both your patience and your minutes. I know personally - one time it took me 3 minutes and six seconds to wade through an automated system just to find out that I had to call back at another time.
Of course phone companies love this (except if you have an unlimited voice wireline or wireless plan). However, presumably the business you call would rather have you be a happy customer and spend more money on it than on your phone company.
If you are designing the automated touch tone menu:
1. Eliminate extra words: For example, "For service X, please press or dial 5". Dialing a number conceptually means the same thing whether you are on a keypad (touch tone) or a rotary phone. You could also use "choose" or "select" instead. Also drop the word "Please." After all, what option does caller the really have if (s)he wants to get service? Final version: "For service X, dial 5." If you have nine menu items that translates into 27 words saved (up to 20 seconds) every time the caller has to make a menu choice.
2. If the menu options have not changed in the past several weeks (which I bet is often the case), then "Please listen carefully for our menu options have changed" isn't necessary and may lead the caller to needlessly listen to entire menu options.
3. Check and test your phone decision tree: two choice stages where each have two choices means four possible outcomes - save time by having the four possibilities at one choice stage.
4. Make it so the caller only has to give his personal and/or account information once: Often automated systems require the caller to enter in account or personal information but then they don't pass it to the agent who handles the call. At this point the caller has to give the information all over again (and usually by voice which can be easily be overheard). It's tedious and makes it look like the business cannot maintain its own systems. Further more the agent now has to deal with an annoyed caller.
That being said, it isn't a bad thing to be entering in information by keypad since nowadays there aren't many private places (gone are the phone booths) where one make a call without being overheard.
Finally your friends can help out by using KISS guidelines in designing the a voicemail greeting:
The days of cutesy or creatively long greeting messages are gone...they waste the caller's air time minutes.
(1) Most phone company voicemail systems have automated messages that you can't shut off so you might as well not repeat them (e.g. "At the tone, leave a message etc. etc...").
(2) You don't have to state the obvious (or what's obviously not true): "I'm not available to take your call" (well isn't that why caller got the voicemail message?); I'll get back to you as soon as possible" (that's a lie, you'll get back to the caller when you decide you can, and the caller knows it) or "leave your name, number and a message" (usually if the caller wants a response he'll leave his contact info, won't he?).
(3) Don't elaborate when it's not needed. "I'm unable to take your call right now, I'm either away from my desk, or on another line"- isn't that essentially same as, "I'm unavailable"?
Take something long and verbose like this:
"Hello, you have reached the voicemail of X. I can't answer your call right now. I'm either away from my desk or on another line, but if you leave your name number and a brief message after the tone, I'll be sure to return your call as soon as possible. Thanks and have a nice day" [The automated voice then says, "At the tone you may leave a message" ].
You can pare it down to:
"Hello, X is unavailable" (allowing the automated message say "at the tone you may leave a message.").
You'll still communicate the essentials of a voicemail greeting. - that's a savings of over 50 words!
Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Victorian Police
So I confirmed, when on foot the Victorian police like to patrol in threes... (and when doing nights in popular places they group in 4-6). Foot patrols in Boston seem to be in pairs. I have several theories. By grouping in pairs Boston police can cover more area and perhaps be more of a deterrent in that respect. Pairs are like what fighter pilots fly in. On the other hand the 3 person unit seems to be the standard for infantry fire teams so I guess if trouble really starts brewing the Victorian police are better for mutual support and for bringing down lots of fire but then again gun violence is much rarer in Australia. Hmmmmm
Tuesday, August 9, 2011
Remember to bring stamps!
One of the things about living abroad that can easily be overlooked is stamps from your home country. As unlikely as it seems, you might find yourself needing vital paperwork from some home organization and that might include sending a self-addressed stamped envelope. So remember to bring some stamps and maybe a few extra small denomination stamps too - in case there's a postal rate increase that happens in your absence.
Friday, May 27, 2011
Maybe you should pay for that extra bag?
When you are going to live in a far off land as a non vacationer, you have to think about daily life. And in some instances it might be worth paying for an extra piece of luggage when you first arrive or when you go back to the foreign country after visiting home. It all depends on the math.
First of all, I think the maxim "Pack only what you need" still applies when moving abroad as a non-vacationer. Packing light is less of an issue when you have found a place to live in the foreign country and you are returning to that place after visiting home.
The math part is that you need to compare prices (with the exchange rate factored in) in the foreign country and your home country. For instance, in the U.S., the sneakers I like cost $40 (US). In Australia, the same pair would cost $90 (US). Lets say with normal use you go through 4 pairs in a year. This might be an exaggeration as to the amount you would use but bear with me on this for illustrative purposes. Bringing 4 pairs from the U.S. would save $200. The cost of an extra bag? $200-250 (you should add in the cost of the bag too). With four pairs of shoes you'll probably still have another 30-35 extra pounds you can pack into the bag which hopefully you will use for items that are cheap back home but expensive abroad.
I'd suggest that extra bag be a duffel bag that you can cram into your regular allowed luggage when you visit home (thus avoiding extra bag fees).
I am not saying this technique or strategy works every time but it's worth checking out.
First of all, I think the maxim "Pack only what you need" still applies when moving abroad as a non-vacationer. Packing light is less of an issue when you have found a place to live in the foreign country and you are returning to that place after visiting home.
The math part is that you need to compare prices (with the exchange rate factored in) in the foreign country and your home country. For instance, in the U.S., the sneakers I like cost $40 (US). In Australia, the same pair would cost $90 (US). Lets say with normal use you go through 4 pairs in a year. This might be an exaggeration as to the amount you would use but bear with me on this for illustrative purposes. Bringing 4 pairs from the U.S. would save $200. The cost of an extra bag? $200-250 (you should add in the cost of the bag too). With four pairs of shoes you'll probably still have another 30-35 extra pounds you can pack into the bag which hopefully you will use for items that are cheap back home but expensive abroad.
I'd suggest that extra bag be a duffel bag that you can cram into your regular allowed luggage when you visit home (thus avoiding extra bag fees).
I am not saying this technique or strategy works every time but it's worth checking out.
Sunday, May 15, 2011
Chicken
In the U.S., chicken wings are more expensive (per unit weight) than chicken legs or chicken thighs. In Australia, it is the exact opposite. That being said, the cultures seem to be very similar and thus presumably Australians love eating wings as much as people in the U.S. I wonder why there is such a difference.
Tuesday, April 19, 2011
Ordering Books in Australia and maybe elsewhere.
Living abroad, as opposed to being a tourist means that probably at some point in time you will want to buy a book (if ebooks haven't taken over by this post). You might not have alot of choice if you want to buy a tourist book to send to friends and for authenticity's sake you might have to buy local. You have to admit it would be kind of cheezy to buy something that could easily be obtained online back at your friend's place of living.
Here in Australia, the price markups are huge and it isn't just GST. I've seen books that are listed for $18 US be sold at stores in Australia for $70+ AUD. If you take the strong Aussie (dollar) into account it's worse. Ahhh but now the temptation is to immediately go to Amazon.com which charges $4.99 per order and $4.99 per item shipping internationally. But you also have another option: bookdepository.com which claims to have free shipping. The thing about bookdepository.com is the prices, while nowhere nearly as bad as Australia, are often higher prices than the prices of Amazon.com - sometimes high enough to make going through Amazon.com better. It can also depend on the mix of books you want. On the other hand, strangely enough, some prices at bookdepository.com are lower than Amazon's - without even including Amazon's shipping.
So there's always the question of value of time. If money isn't that much of an object for you but you still want to feel like you are being frugal go through Amazon.com or bookdepository.com - instead of off the shelf from Australian book sellers (Sorry Readings, even you get undercut too). If you want to save even more money then I'd do the price computations between bookdepository.com or Amazon.com. Anyone have a better online store? do let me know.
Here in Australia, the price markups are huge and it isn't just GST. I've seen books that are listed for $18 US be sold at stores in Australia for $70+ AUD. If you take the strong Aussie (dollar) into account it's worse. Ahhh but now the temptation is to immediately go to Amazon.com which charges $4.99 per order and $4.99 per item shipping internationally. But you also have another option: bookdepository.com which claims to have free shipping. The thing about bookdepository.com is the prices, while nowhere nearly as bad as Australia, are often higher prices than the prices of Amazon.com - sometimes high enough to make going through Amazon.com better. It can also depend on the mix of books you want. On the other hand, strangely enough, some prices at bookdepository.com are lower than Amazon's - without even including Amazon's shipping.
So there's always the question of value of time. If money isn't that much of an object for you but you still want to feel like you are being frugal go through Amazon.com or bookdepository.com - instead of off the shelf from Australian book sellers (Sorry Readings, even you get undercut too). If you want to save even more money then I'd do the price computations between bookdepository.com or Amazon.com. Anyone have a better online store? do let me know.
Saturday, April 9, 2011
The relativeness of weather.
I have managed to wear long pants a grand total of 3 times since arriving on November 19th. I wore jeans one day in November (it was a mistake I ended up sweating alot), then dress slacks for a 2 hour meeting in January, and then jeans again last week but then again that was for only the morning.
It was a little strange to be walking around in shorts when you see all the Aussies wearing scarves, sweatshirts, etc. Though actually the scarves are more dressy in style here than for warmth, I did manage to look a bit out of place. You can't blame them for bundling up when the weather drops below 60F. It never snows here!
It was a little strange to be walking around in shorts when you see all the Aussies wearing scarves, sweatshirts, etc. Though actually the scarves are more dressy in style here than for warmth, I did manage to look a bit out of place. You can't blame them for bundling up when the weather drops below 60F. It never snows here!
Monday, January 10, 2011
Retail: Australia vs. U.S.
Now this is a very biased view but here's what I observe when you walk into a "decent sized" chain store (whatever that is but we're not talking about a specialty store where it's so small that basically the owner/operator is right there all the time).
At the entrance:
Australia: a loss prevention person is there to check your bags to see if you are shoplifting
U.S.: a person is there to greet you and to ask you "Hi how are you today..." of course this isn't simply to be nice it's to start engaging you towards making a purchase (i.e. the personal pressure is on).
In the store:
Australia: no one is around for you to ask if you have a question about a product or where to find something... they are busy at the cashier or at the entrance.
U.S.: there area a few people around to immediately ask how they can help you (note it's not a yes or no question), to immediately start backing you into a corner where social graces would indicate that you have no excuse not to buy something... When's the last time you had someone just say, "Hi, I'm _____, if you have any questions while you are here, just ask."
Background music/store theme music - both countries: really bad.
At the Cashier -
pretty much the same, except in supermarkets Australia is big on self checkout - which is incredibly slow because the loss prevention settings are set on high... it basically thinks that half the time you didn't place an item in the bagging area when you did etc. In Australia I recommend going to the cashier 99% of the time... even if you have one item and have to wait... it's that much faster. That being said, self checkout is slower than the cashier in both countries.
It would be nice if the two retailing systems could kind of meet half way in the middle.
At the entrance:
Australia: a loss prevention person is there to check your bags to see if you are shoplifting
U.S.: a person is there to greet you and to ask you "Hi how are you today..." of course this isn't simply to be nice it's to start engaging you towards making a purchase (i.e. the personal pressure is on).
In the store:
Australia: no one is around for you to ask if you have a question about a product or where to find something... they are busy at the cashier or at the entrance.
U.S.: there area a few people around to immediately ask how they can help you (note it's not a yes or no question), to immediately start backing you into a corner where social graces would indicate that you have no excuse not to buy something... When's the last time you had someone just say, "Hi, I'm _____, if you have any questions while you are here, just ask."
Background music/store theme music - both countries: really bad.
At the Cashier -
pretty much the same, except in supermarkets Australia is big on self checkout - which is incredibly slow because the loss prevention settings are set on high... it basically thinks that half the time you didn't place an item in the bagging area when you did etc. In Australia I recommend going to the cashier 99% of the time... even if you have one item and have to wait... it's that much faster. That being said, self checkout is slower than the cashier in both countries.
It would be nice if the two retailing systems could kind of meet half way in the middle.
Sunday, December 19, 2010
A month
This has to be quick because I really have to get some sleep... wow I've been in country for a month... it's flown and yet crawled by... I figure if I made it for a month, hopefully things will get a bit easier...knock on wood heavily. I have also counted on one hand the number of days it hasn't rained.... wow.
Wednesday, December 15, 2010
A quick note on Visas
I learned the hard way that applying for a new visa when you are already in a country is in some ways more difficult than applying from the outside. If you are applying for a visa that will replace the one you currently have, make sure you specify when you want it to take effect... otherwise it might take effect immediately and wipe out the other one for good. Not all visas are created equal...the new one might revoke privileges (e.g. like work privileges) that you are relying upon.
Wednesday, December 8, 2010
Queen Victoria Market
Queen Victoria Market
On the corner of Elizabeth and Victoria Streets
Open generally on Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun
http://www.qvm.com.au/
The Queen Victoria Market... for all intents and purposes is awesome. While it's trading hours are from 6-2 on weekdays (except closed on Wednesday), usually the massive food sections are the ones that open at 6 and the other retail parts open later. Everything looks like a good deal... but don't jump at things immediately, the strawberries at 2 packages for 3 dollars might be undercut by a nearby vendor who is offering 2 for 2. You could bring a huge suitcase and 200 AUD and easily fill it with goodies ranging from food to wigs, to shirts, souvenies, shoes, other bags, and most any other goodies you can think of... ok so they don't sell Lawn mowers and yes you could by the really expensive item here and there... but that's not what you are at the Queen Victoria Market for. You're there for good bargains on things you need to live on and to beat the price on things you'd like to send home to friends and family (T-shirts - 5 to 8 dollars). You could easily spend a day there just to look over all that's being sold....
I will say, you should bring cash because may of the vendors don't accept credit (nor are in a position to take a card and process it - would you want someone in the meat section to handle your card with his bloody hands?).
Don't forget... Wednesday nights in the summer, part of the Market opens for fun and festivities...
On the corner of Elizabeth and Victoria Streets
Open generally on Tues, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun
http://www.qvm.com.au/
The Queen Victoria Market... for all intents and purposes is awesome. While it's trading hours are from 6-2 on weekdays (except closed on Wednesday), usually the massive food sections are the ones that open at 6 and the other retail parts open later. Everything looks like a good deal... but don't jump at things immediately, the strawberries at 2 packages for 3 dollars might be undercut by a nearby vendor who is offering 2 for 2. You could bring a huge suitcase and 200 AUD and easily fill it with goodies ranging from food to wigs, to shirts, souvenies, shoes, other bags, and most any other goodies you can think of... ok so they don't sell Lawn mowers and yes you could by the really expensive item here and there... but that's not what you are at the Queen Victoria Market for. You're there for good bargains on things you need to live on and to beat the price on things you'd like to send home to friends and family (T-shirts - 5 to 8 dollars). You could easily spend a day there just to look over all that's being sold....
I will say, you should bring cash because may of the vendors don't accept credit (nor are in a position to take a card and process it - would you want someone in the meat section to handle your card with his bloody hands?).
Don't forget... Wednesday nights in the summer, part of the Market opens for fun and festivities...
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